Vasishtha; "It would be so only if that Samsara had true existence, and if the VMeha-mukta .had not realised that it has no true existence. ^ Rama : ^But how, again, may its non-entity be realised ?'* Vasishtha : "Thel way uphill is no less long- than the way downhill. By patient unremitting- effort may this end be gained. Think on the nature of the Seen and of the Seer. What seems so solid today, is it as solid to-morrow ? Hast thou not thyself so well described how seas dry up, mountains crumble away, and [whole worlds vanish from ^thc painted sheets of space ? And does^not even common reason say that what is, cannot also not be, and that what is not, cannot be ? Does it not follow hence that whatsoever undergoes a chang"e is really illusive, has no true existence ? "That only which persists through Maha-pralayas has true existence." Rama: ^This that remains behind after such Pralayas i^ust be formless. On this point I have no doubt. But how should it not then be utter emptiness, mere nothing. Where neither Seer is, nor Seen, cannot be else than nothing'/1' Vasishtha : ^Truly a No-Thing-, but , which holds all thing's within itself. As the marble-block contains within itself all possible shapes that mig-ht be chiselled out of it; as the smooth surface of the ocean hides within itself all possible billows that might rise on it, so does the Being- that remains through Pralayas contain ^within itself all possible forms of all Samsaras. The marble figures and the ocean-waves—what are they ? Mere modifications of the substance of the marble or the water, modifications, movements, limitations in Time and Space. If by a great effort of the Buddhi, Motion and Time and Space could be cast out of the illustration, then would it become plain how emptiness and nothlng'nesJs is full with all existence,"